RAYMOND T. SEELEY
California state Archivesstate Government Oral History ProgramOral History InterviewwithRAYMOND T. SEELEYCalifornia state Assemblyman, 1970-1974July 18, 1990Whittier, CaliforniaBy Enid Hart DouglassClaremont Graduate School
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March Fong EuSecretary of StateCalifornia State Archives1020 0 Street, Room 130Sacramento, CA95814InformationDocument RestorationExhibit HallLegislative Bill Service(prior years)(916) 44.5-4293(916) 445-4293(916) 44.5-0748(916) 44.5-2832PREFACEOn September 25, 1985, Governor George Deukmejian signedinto law A.B. 2104 (Chapter 965 of the Statutes of 1985).This legislation established, under the administration ofthe California State Archives, a State Government OralHistory Program "to provide through the use of oral historya continuing documentation of state policy development asreflected in California's legislative and executivehistory."The following interview is one of a series of oral historiesundertaken for inclusion in the state program. Theseinterviews offer insights into the actual workings of boththe legislative and executive processes and policymechanisms. They also offer an increased understanding ofthe men and women who create legislation and implement statepolicy. Further, they provide an overview of issuedevelopment in California state government and of how boththe legislative and executive branches of government dealwith issues and problems facing the state.Interviewees are chosen primarily on the basis of theircontributions to and influence on the policy process of thestate of California. They include members of thelegislative and executive branches of the state governmentas well as legislative staff, advocates, members of themedia, and other people who played significant roles inspecific issue areas of major and continuing importance toCalifornia.By authorizing the California State Archives to workcooperatively with oral history units at California collegesand universities to conduct interviews, this program isstructured to take advantage of the resources and expertisein oral history available through California's severalinstitutionally based programs.
participating as cooperating institutions in the stateGovernment Oral History Program are:Oral History ProgramHistory DepartmentCalifornia state University, FullertonOral History ProgramCenter for California studiesCalifornia state University, SacramentoOral History ProgramClaremont Graduate SchoolRegional Oral History OfficeThe Bancroft LibraryUniversity of California, BerkeleyOral History ProgramUniversity of California, Los AngelesThe establishment of the California state Archives StateGovernment Oral History Program marks one of the mostsignificant commitments made by any state toward thepreservation and documentation of its governmental history.It supplements the often fragmentary historical writtenrecord by adding an organized primary source, enriching thehistorical information available on given topics andallowing for more thorough historical analysis. As such,the program, through the preservation and pUblication ofinterviews such as the one which follows, will be of lastingvalue to current and future generations of scholars,citizens, and leaders.John F. BurnsState ArchivistJUly 27, 1988This interview is printed on acid-free paper.
RAYMOND SEELEY
TABLE OF CONTENTSINTERVIEW HISTORY . . .BIOGRAPHICAL SUMMARYiiiSESSION 1, July 18, 1990[Tape 1, Side A]1Seeley family moves to Blythe--Schooling inBlythe--Effect of the Great Depression on careerplans--Becomes a cattle rancher--Appointed deputysheriff in Riverside County--Begins to racehorses--Activity in local community groups--Learnsto fly an airplane--Elected to the county board ofsupervisors--Fiscal conservative--Assumeschairmanship of the board--Land-use issues.[Tape 1, Side B]36Decides to run for an open assembly seat--DefeatsDemocrat Susan Marx--Disdains party politics-Committee assignments--Comments on fellow freshmenassemblymen--carrying bills for constitutents'needs--Exploiting geothermal resources--Poorattendance by legislators during legislativesessions.[Tape 2, Side A]70Republican caucus to elect a speaker--Chairs theAgriculture Committee--Views on reapportionment-Attitude towards the death penalty--Protecting thedesert tortoise--False campaign charges byopponent--Wins reelection in '72--Relationshipwith Governor Reagan.[Tape 2, Side B]Selecting a Republican minority leader--Pressureof lobbyists and special interests--Billregulating the sale of race horses--Local waterdistrict legislation--Establishing a county fairin the district--Loses '74 election and returns to103
private life--Helps fellow Republicans in thelocal area.[Begin Tape 3, Side A]137Appointed by Jerry Brown to the Horse RacingBoard--Responsibilities of the Horse RacingBoard--Allocating racing dates to the tracks-Reappointed by Governor Deukmejian--Chairs theHorse Racing Board--Issue of medicating horses-Suggested reforms for the board.[Begin Tape 3, Side B]170Political acuity of Willie Brown--Vehementlyopposes "ghost" voting--Problem of introducing toomany bills--Strain placed on personal life bydemands of political office.INDEX OF NAMES184
INTERVIEW HISTORYInterviewer/EditorEnid Hart DouglassDirector, Oral History Program and Lecturer inHistoryClaremont Graduate SchoolB.A., Pomona College [Government]M.A., Claremont Graduate School [Government]Interview Time and PlaceJuly 18, 1990Mr. Seeley's daughter's home, Whittier, CaliforniaMorning and Afternoon Sessions of 4 hoursEditingThe interviewer/editor checked the verbatim manuscriptof the interviews against the original tape recordingsand verified proper names.Insertions by the editorare bracketed.On September 15, 1990, the edited transcript wasforwarded to Raymond T. Seeley, who made only minoremendations and added some additional information inwriting. He returned the approved manuscript September26, 1990.The interviewer/editor prepared the introductorymaterials.Tapes and Interview RecordsThe original tape recordings of the interview are inthe Oral History Program Office, Claremont GraduateSchool, along with the records relating to theinterview. Master tapes are deposited in theCalifornia State Archives.i
BIOGRAPHICAL SUMMARYRaymond T. Seeley was born on March 2, 1912 in Cibola,Arizona. His father moved the family to Blythe, Californiawhen Raymond Seeley was four years old and began to raiseand feed cattle on a ranch. Raymond Seeley was educated inthe Palo Verde Valley public school system and graduatedfrom Blythe High School in 1930.Raymond Seeley enrolled at the University ofCalifornia, Los Angeles in the fall of 1931 but had to dropout when he lost all his money in a bank failure.Hereturned to Blythe and worked for a year before attendingRiverside Junior College.In 1934, when the cattle marketcollapsed, he was forced to return to work on the familyranch. Mr. Seeley remained in cattle ranching and within afew years his ranch began to prosper. He married Emma JeanFreeman in 1936, and they had a son. After her death hemarried Ruth Bailey in 1978.In 1940, Mr. Seeley was elected constable, a part-timelaw enforcement position for Riverside County. He was thenappointed brand inspector for the State of California tocheck the ownership brands of out-of-state cattle.In 1941,Mr. Seeley was appointed deputy sheriff of Riverside Countyand remained in that position for ten years.In 1966, hewas elected to the Riverside County board of supervisors andserved one term, the final two years as chairman, beforerunning for the state assembly.Mr. Seeley was elected to the state assembly in 1971and served two terms. While in the assembly Mr. Seeleyserved on the Agriculture, Water, Criminal Justice, andLocal Government Committees. He carried bills pertaining toanimal husbandry, fish and game, geothermal resources, andlocal water districts.In 1982, Mr. Seeley was appointed to the CaliforniaHorse Racing Board and served two four-year terms. He hasalso been the district governor of Rotary International forDistrict 534 in southern California. He is retired andlives with his wife in Blythe, where they continue to breedhorses.ii
1[Session 1, July 18, 1990][Begin Tape 1, Side A]DOUGLASS:You were born in Cibola, Arizona in 1912.SEELEY:That is correct.DOUGLASS:Why was your family living there?SEELEY:My grandparents moved to Cibola from VenturaCounty in 1900.that time.My dad was just a young man atHe was married over in California,but he took his wife over there.And they weredeveloping that area at that time.DOUGLASS:Were they ranching there?SEELEY:Yes.DOUGLASS:That must have been fascinating.SEELEY:It was pretty prehistoric.DOUGLASS:Was he from Cibola?SEELEY:He had lived in cibola since 1900.DOUGLASS:Because he married he went to Cibola?And raising cattle.
2SEELEY:When he got married, he went back to Cibola andstayed there until 1916.I was just four yearsold when we moved across to California.DOUGLASS:Do you have brothers and sisters?SEELEY:Yes.I had one brother.War II.He was killed in WorldMy sisters, I have three.I have asister-in-law, the wife of my brother who waskilled overseas.DOUGLASS:Where were you in the family?SEELEY:I was the second.What number?I have one sister older thanI by about a year and a half.I was number twoin the family.DOUGLASS:So your father was ranching in Cibola.SEELEY:That is right.DOUGLASS:What kind of ranching would that be?SEELEY:My grandfather spent a lot of money developingthat to a farming area.That was before thedams in the Colorado River.It washed it allout, a fortune that he had put in there.just went down the drain.ItSo then he got intocattle, thinking that would be better.But theyput in a lot of purebred cattle and they wentdown the drain at the next overflow.So then hewent back to the native cattle, and that seemedto work out all right.
3DOUGLASS:Exactly where is Cibola, Mr. Seeley?SEELEY:Cibola is actually about twenty-five miles southof Blythe.It is on the Arizona side of theborder but within the same valley, the PaloVerde Valley, which Blythe is in.DOUGLASS:All right.You were just a little boy and yourfamily moved where in California?SEELEY:We moved, actually, to the Neighbor's area, fourmiles southwest of the city of Blythe.At thattime, there was not very much in the city ofBlythe.roads.It was an old-fashioned place.DirtA lot of the land wasn't developed atthat time.DOUGLASS:Was your father's plan to be a rancher there?SEELEY:Yes.DOUGLASS:Cattle?SEELEY:Cattle for a period of time and then morefarming.He did raise cattle, feed cattle, inthat area for a long period of time.DOUGLASS:As a boy you went to the Palo Verde schools?SEELEY:That is right.DOUGLASS:Was this a small school?SEELEY:I started out at a Neighbor's school, two milesfrom my home.There were no means oftransportation at that time, except foot or
4horseback.So my sister and I went there.next sister started there too.MyLater on, wewere transported to Blythe in the way ofschooling when they started using buses.Mylast two years of grammar school were at theBlythe school.DOUGLASS:The high school was in Blythe.SEELEY:The high school was in Blythe.I went there forfour years.DOUGLASS:How big a school was that?SEELEY:It was very small.My graduating class just hadfifteen students.DOUGLASS:Was there anything you were particularlyinterested in in high school?SEELEY:Not necessarily.I just went through thegeneral things they had to offer.There wasn'tanything special at that time.DOUGLASS:As I understand it, you started out at RiversideJunior College.SEELEY:I went to UCLA [University of California, LosAngeles] first.I had every intention of goingto UCLA and graduating, but I had a pretty roughtime of it.I stayed out of school.Igraduated in 1930 and stayed out until the fallof '31 and worked all of that time and saved all
5of my money.Unfortunately, the bank where Ihad had my deposit went broke just before I wasready to go to college.DOUGLASS:You were a double victim of the depression.SEELEY:I certainly was.I had enough to have gottenstarted on, but, unfortunately, I had to startout working right from the outset.wasn't easy to get a job.And itThe man that I hadworked for was high up in the cattle business.He got me a job at Wilson Packing Company, tostart with.months.I worked there for about twoThe first check that I got bounced.Ihad already spent the money buying material forschool.So then I had to make that good.friend of mine,This[Hubbard] Hub Russell fromRussell Brothers Cattle Company, he is the onewho interceded on my behalf and did get my moneyfor me, but it took a period of time.DOUGLASS:Where were you living at this time when you wereworking and buying your books for school?SEELEY:Actually, I lived out in Westwood.DOUGLASS:Where was the Wilson Packing Company?Los Angeles?SEELEY:In Vernon.DOUGLASS:When did you enter UCLA?Was it in
6SEELEY:The fall of '31.DOUGLASS:How long were you able to stay in school?SEELEY:I stayed there for the first semester.had to drop out.Then II just wasn't making it.After working for Vernon Packing Company, then Iworked for Wilson and Company.almost full time there.I had to workI would go to work atsix o'clock in the evening and work untilmidnight or two or three o'clock in the morning.DOUGLASS:This was meat packing.SEELEY:Right.DOUGLASS:Did you have a major in mind?SEELEY:Yes.DOUGLASS:How did you get interested in that?SEELEY:I was always interested in mathematics.Engineering.I didvery well in mathematics all through highschool.I knew that engineering required a lotof mathematics, and I thought that that would bea good one to major in.It was something I wasinterested in.DOUGLASS:Because of finances you had to give up going onin UCLA.SEELEY:So what did you do?I went back home and worked for the nextsemester and saved money again.Fortunately, it
7wasn't taken up with a bank failure.I cameback to Riverside Junior College.DOUGLASS:Did you live in Riverside?SEELEY:I lived in Riverside.Blythe is 165 miles fromRiverside.DOUGLASS:Right.How long were you in junior college?SEELEY:The full two semesters the next year.DOUGLASS:Did you get an A.A.SEELEY:No.I didn't.[Associate of Arts]?I would have if I had finishedthe full year at UCLA, but I was a little bitshort of credits.DOUGLASS:What did you decide to do at that point, Mr.Seeley?SEELEY:I had to go back and go to work again.In 1934is when the cattle market just went to pieces.The government started buying up cattle andslaughtering them for the purpose of bringingthe price up.And a lot of that meat was justplain wasted.I could see at that time that wasa foolish way to do things because we had hungrypeople.If nothing more, that meat should havebeen provided for people who were destitute.That is when I made up my mind that someday Imight want to get into politics and try to do
8something to preserve things rather than just bewasteful.DOUGLASS:So the depression had a real influence on yourlater political aims?SEELEY:It had a very great influence.DOUGLASS:That is very true of many people I haveinterviewed around your generation and older whowere catalyzed by their depression experiences.So you decided to go into ranching whichwas a childhood experience with your father?SEELEY:To some extent.After the cattle market cameback a little stronger I started buying cattleand selling.time.I traded in cattle for quite someThat kept me on the road all the time.When I decided to get married in 1936, I decidedthat I ought to do something else.So I went towork for Fisher Company down in Blythe, who hadboth farmed and raised cattle.I worked therefor six months after I got married.Then I wentout on my own again doing odd jobs.DOUGLASS:At some point in here, Mr. Seeley, did youacquire some land out there?SEELEY:Actually, in 1938, I purchased a little piece ofland.Later on, in the late forties, Ipurchased some more land because land was not
9too hard to come by, but the money to pay for itwas.I did quite well.DOUGLASS:Was some of it land defaulted on taxes?SEELEY:No.I didn't get any of the tax land.have, but I didn't do that.I couldI bought mineoutright from people who had land they wanted tosell.DOUGLASS:Did you run cattle on that land?SEELEY:Some.DOUGLASS:Did you live there?SEELEY:Yes.Yes.I started living on the land that I boughtin 1938.My home is still at the same place.DOUGLASS:Is it on the outskirts of Blythe?SEELEY:Two miles out of the heart of Blythe.DOUGLASS:We are moving up to the war.As I understandit, you were deputy sheriff of Riverside Countybeginning in 1941.How did that happen?SEELEY:I was elected constable in 1940.DOUGLASS:Why did you do that?SEELEY:Well, it was a paying job.Why did you run?something in those days.You had to haveEven though it didn'tpay very much, it paid a little bit.a full-time job being constable.It was notAs you know,that job is serving civil processes.There is
10very little law enforcement as far as thecriminal field goes.DOUGLASS:Would that be a third of your time?SEELEY:Probably not even more than a fourth becausethere was not too much civil processes going onthat time.But I had plenty of time to do otherthings.DOUGLASS:So you could combine that with your ongoingbusiness?SEELEY:Yes.Then I was appointed brand inspector forthe state of California at about the same time.Cattle that was being shipped, I had to inspectthem for their brand.worked pretty good.The two jobs togetherThen they wanted me tobecome a deputy sheriff, so I had to resign fromthe other two jobs.DOUGLASS:That was appointed.Was that appointed by thecity council?SEELEY:The county sheriff.DOUGLASS:That's right.You were in Riverside County.the sheriff appointed.SEELEY:Yes.DOUGLASS:Who was the sheriff then?SEELEY:Carl Rayburn.DOUGLASS:Had you known him?So
11SEELEY:I just knew who he was, as the sheriff.DOUGLASS:How did he happen to appoint you?SEELEY:I was a young man, fit and able.reason for not appointing me.There was noI had a littleexperience being the constable there.So hejust asked me if I would like to become adeputy.DOUGLASS:What were your duties?SEELEY:Patrol work and enforcing the law.have very much trouble at the time.I didn'tBut Iworked around the clock whenever there wassomething to do and I was able to do it.DOUGLASS:Was it a full-time job?SEELEY:It was a full-time job.In those days, wedidn't have any unions.We didn't have any sethours.We just worked when there was somethingto do.The pay wasn't all that great.DOUGLASS:Do you remember what it was?SEELEY:Two hundred twenty-five dollars a month was whatI started with.within six months I had madesergeant, and it raised it to 295 a month.that is what I got for the next ten years.don't know how I kept up with inflation.[Laughter]DOUGLASS:But you were also ranching, is that right?SoI
12SEELEY:When I started out, my ranching didn't amount tomuch.It was a small ten-acre piece.I bought this other land.Later on,I bought the eightyacres and then another forty.I was farming ona little larger scale at that time.DOUGLASS:Was that in the forties when you did that?SEELEY:Yes.DOUGLASS:Could you mak
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