A Roadmap To Estate And Trust Income - IRS Tax Forms

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A Roadmap toEstate and Trust IncomePresented by:Larry Gray, CPA

Introduction What you need to know about Estate/Trustincome to answer your 1040 clients questions. What books don’t tell you! The starting point! Other “Tax Forum” Estate/Trust programs. Howthis program is different.

My Tax Season Client’s Questions: Aunt’s Estate/Trust sent me 20,000. Is this taxable? Father became incapacitated, what do I do? Clients created joint trust (husband & wife) what happens? Aunt & uncle where in a serious accident my uncle died. What do I do? Uncle was in the hospital and his attorney drew up a bill of sale of hisLLC to his trust. How will this work?

Income Reporting Where do I report the income or is it income? How to report the flow of money or benefit? “Types of Estate/Trust income” will be discussed atend of presentation.

Example – Which Return?MFJ – Taxpayer Passes Away in MaySpouse Incapacitated in September

Definitions Estate – after death with or without a will Grantor or revocable trust – before death orafter death Irrevocable trust Incapacitated

Definitions - Continued Transfer on Death (TOD) Pay on Death (POD) Specific Bequest A/B Trust

General RuleWho Pays the Tax on Estate/Trust Step 1– Income to Beneficiaries; Is the lessor of distribution to beneficiaries orestate/trust income Step 2– Income to Trust; Is the trust income less income distributed inStep 1

The Family Tree Most Common Estate/Trust 10411. Probate2. Trust Estate3. A/B Trust4. Control

Where Does the Income Go?4 Steps!1. Event - What do I ask the Client?2. Document - What documents do I need?3. Return - What return does it go on?4. Timing - Who pays the tax?10

Step 1 – Event What happened – What do I ask the client?– Gift– Death – Estate/Trust– Transfer to Trust– Revocable– Irrevocable– Transfers at Death– TOD– POD– Transfer by Document– Specific Bequest– Others:11

Step 2 - Documents What documents do I need?– Will– Trust– Durable Power of Attorney– 709, 1040, 1041– Others – Example - Title, Appraisal– Legal Docs for Entities12

Step 3 - Returns What returns is income reported on?– 1040– 1040 Spouse– 1041 Estate– 1041 Trust– 1041 Estate/Trust– 1041 Beneficiary– 1040 Other13

Step 4 – TimingWhich Returns Report Income &Which Return Pays the Tax? Returns Reported, or Who Has Money/Benefit, or Was There a Distribution?14

Timing Flow Chart15

Example 1 Clients created a joint trust (husband & wife),they are the grantors. What happens? What would happen if they had a separatehusband and wife trust?16

Example 2 Client’s deceased aunt’s estate/trust sent client a checkfor 20,000. Is it taxable, and where do I report it?– Distribution– POD– Specific Bequest Client’s healthy aunt’s trust sent client a check for 20,000. Is it taxable, and where do I report it?17

Example 3 Client’s uncle is in the hospital, his attorneydrew up a bill of sale for his 3 LLC’s to transferhis interest to his grantor trust.– How do you report it if he lives?– How do you report it if he dies?18

Example 4 Clients’ aunt and uncle were in an accident in May.Uncle died in the accident, aunt is still living. He had thefollowing:– Trust with wife as beneficiary if she survives; annualdistributions– A “CD” with “POD” to son– Partnership interest in his name– The rest of assets in joint name with wife Where do I report the income from these assets?19

Who Reports, Who Pays?Who ReportsWho Pays1/1Date of Death12/31 Trust – No Distribution1040 Joint10411041 Trust – Distribution1040 Joint1041- Dist - 10401041/1040 CD “POD”Son1040 Joint1040 - Son1040 - Trust – Distribution1040 Joint1040 Joint1040 Joint20

Example 5 Client picked up her uncle’s 1041 estate return for 2009.This was the first year of the estate and will still continuefor 1 – 2 more years. She saw a NOL worksheet and anegative taxable income including excess deductions.Her question:– How did we decide what income went on the 1041and she as a beneficiary, what part of the loss doesshe get?21

Thank You Thank you for attending this session. Don’t forget to stop by the NATP booth in theExpo Hall for a handout related to this session.22

Where do I report the income from these assets? 19. Who Reports, Who Pays? Who Reports Who Pays. 1/1 Date of Death 12/31 Trust – No Distribution 1040 Joint 1041 1041 Trust – Distribution 1040 Joint 1041- Dist - 1040 1041/1040 CD “POD” 1040 Joint 1040 - Son 1040 - .

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