Both Seen Better Days, A Farm Wagon Based On 22-25 T Chassis

Page 7MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019Chris Dillon had talked to members asking them to assist but no luck. Hoping members at Cameron’s Corner wouldhave talked & put their hands up.The Secretary needs to informed Vic Roads about non-Financial members.The Chair ask the members to come to the next month meeting with thoughts on the different position available & it’srestructuring. Meanwhile please contact John English on his mobile:0407871670 for further discussion.Fiona to contact Andrew Brand to email all members asking if anyone may be interested in serving the new committee.Paul Grady suggested to get more members to participate, the club will need to spend about 2000/- per year to create a virtual committee by video conferencing. (members in the committee can remotely logged in for meetings etcwithout leaving their homes – benefiting out of town members).Bernie said at AOMC meeting recently, it was noted that about 25-35% of Car clubs are having an aging membership& will not be able to use virtual connection. It may be the same situation with our club.The Chair noted that the current Secretary will lodge all documents with Consumer Affairs.The Chair thanked the outgoing committee for the good work done.The Chair thanked & welcomed the incoming committee.Meeting closed by at 9.00 pm.Continuation of AGM of MTFCV as held at Ashburton Library on Friday August 10 th 2018 commencing at 8.05pm.Bernie McKeegan who chaired the AGM is overseas and therefore this extension of the AGM is being chaired by NoelHuitt.This meeting is solely aimed at election of Official Office Bearers.There was only one nomination for each position available.These are David Weatherhead for President, John English for Vice President, Joanne Baulch for Secretary and Rhonda Huitt for Treasurer.Committee members nominated are Dean Williams, Steve Brown, Geoff Brooke and Graham Hadden.A vote was put to the floor that these people be duly elected. The floor voted unanimously that these people be accepted as the new committee for 2018-2019 club year of MTFCV.Moved Geof BaulchSeconded Jeyadeva RetnamAs this is all the business that needed to be conducted the meeting was closed at 8.10 pm

Page 8MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019Vale Joseph John (John) EnglishIt is with great sadness that I speak of the passing of John on Tuesday the 27th May 2019whilst in care at the Foster Hospital.A couple of other club members and I had the privilege of speaking with John before his passing. It was so sad to see a friend passing almost before you. This was a time that I will holdclose for ever.John was such an enthusiastic and knowledgeable person with such impressionable thoughtsabout our beloved hobby of tinkering with cars and especially with Model T Fords.

Page 9MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019The effort that he put to improving his treasured speedster was quite evident with changes tosuspension, braking and the power plant that was put together by David Weatherhead.That allowed him to drive with confidence and safety. So much so that earlier this year he wasseen driving the Model T Speedster with a trailer attached, on his way to a swap meet inGippsland. That must have been quite a sight to see. It would have been some distance travelled from Toora and back again.Picture: John and his wife Terase main street Toora in SpeedsterLast year John, as we all know, put his hand up to be our Vice President at a time when theclub was struggling to get a club committee together. Thanks John

Page 10MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019In 2015 while I was on my own rally travelling around Gippsland in my newly acquired Model T Coupe, I found myself parked out the front of Johns workshop in Toora, it was a time inmy life, (sadly I have had many) that I may have been looking for some direction and the person that reached out to me at that moment was John English.It was a very personal experience for me and he was able to share some very good guidanceand so a new friendship began for us both it was just great! At the end of my visits over thenext 4 Days John handed me this strange Cartoon pictured below. I did however have a fewissues with my T Model while I was on my rally. I think this is why he gave me the cartoon.As mentioned at his Funeral service, John was able to put his amazing engineering and welding skills to work in any situation at his workshop at Toora, where the club had visited severaltimes. John had been working on another car project over the past 4 Years, it was a 40s eraLanchester chassis which would have originally been some kind of English Saloon car.The project was well underway with the suspension, braking system, steering and differentialand Willies wheels fitted. When finished it would have been your classic Hot Rod with a mixture of components from other Vehicles and an A Model engine. At this time the project is unfinished. When visiting John not much more than 3 weeks ago, he was in the workshop explaining to me and a group of other friends, how he was going on to finish the project.John you will be missed by so many people in our Model T Club and in the greater world.Thanks for your friendship.We all wish you high flying in the world of Model T motoring.Farewell John I am sure we will meet again.Trevor Merton

Page 11MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019AOMC Delegates ReportMeeting Date 27.05.2019.Venue. Jaguar/Austin Healey Clubrooms.23 Rosalie St. Springvale.A copy of the minutes of this meeting are available on the AOMC website at www.aomc.asn.au.The summary below contains my understanding of the item’s which I believe are of interest to our members.The meeting was opened by President Keith Mortimer who welcomed all Delegates to the AOMC office /meeting venue.Guest Speaker. Tonight’s 1st.Guest Speaker was Selwyn Cohen who spoke on Taxation as it affects Clubs.The main issues revolved around whether Clubs are “Not For Profit” and “Tax Exempt Status”. All incomeand expenses derived from member’s activities is tax exempt. All income relating to non members is taxable,and all expenses relating to non members are deductable. Where income is from both members and nonmembers the proportion that is non member is tax deductable.The 2nd. Guest speaker was Tony Jackson from Car Torque. Car Torque is a website / social media platformthat is being developed to cater for the motor enthusiast community. It aims to bring all news and events ontothe one platform. Clubs can set up their own virtual website on the platform and determine what informationis available to members only, and what is open to the public. They are happy to visit clubs to discuss theconcept.Club permit scheme report. Nothing to report from VicRoads.The VicRoads review of the CPS has been delayed until the second half of 2019.VicRoads are currently undergoing a restructure.Upcoming Events. Restoration Seminar.Saturday 29th. June. AOMC Rooms.RACV Aussie Car Show. Sunday 25th. August. Yarra Glen Racecourse.General Business / Delegates reports / Business Arising.Daryl Meek (RACV) spoke on the 2020 Australia Day Display in the Domain which this year will featureAustralian made vehicles. They are looking for approximately 100 vehicles and are just waiting on authoritiesapproval.Daryl also spoke on the 100th. Anniversary of the 1st. Alpine Reliability Trial to be run in 2021. Priority willbe given to.Vehicles that participated originally.Same vehicle as one that participated.Vintage vehicles pre 1927.Vintage vehicles up to 1930.A delegate queried why there is no Japanese Car Show on the AOMC calendar. The response was it had beentried but failed due to lack of interest.NEXT DELEGATES MEETING WILL BE HELD on 17th. August 2019 at the Macedon Ranges & DistrictMotor C.lub, 10 Webb Cres. New Gisborne.If any further information or clarification is required on any of the above items I may be contacted on0418 543 939.Bernie McKeegan,Delegate.

Page 12MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019FEDERATION REPORTMeeting held at Kerang Saturday 18th May 2019The meeting was hosted by the Kerang and District Vintage Motor Club in Kerang.As the Kerang Picnic day is on the Sunday most members will stay in Kerang and attend the Picnic. This Annual Event ties in with the National Motoring Heritage Day and is shared by theKerang, Echuca, Deniliquin and Swan Hill Clubs.The meeting was opened by president Neil Athorn. The Kerang Representative, Ron Paine welcomed all present at the meeting.New members, apologies, minutes, correspondence and the financial reports were attended toin due course.General Business was acted on next with grant applications from the West Gippsland VehicleRestorers were requested to assist with their 5 day event 1st to 5th November 2019 and a Trophy application from Hamilton and District VVC Drivers Club for their Queen’s Birthday Rally,7th to 10th June 2019.The Baw Baw Old Engines and Auto club are asking to hold a Federation Picnic Annually in Oct/Nov.The Australian Historic Motoring Federation (AHMF) National Event 28th March to 3 rd April2020 at Albury is fully organized, it is a hub event in and around Albury/Wodonga area, thiswas last held in 2000 and around 1978 so it doesn’t come around to often. This event is open toall Historic Vehicles 25 yrs and older and they expect 200 vehicles to attend but it is not opento HotRods, Street Rods or Highly Modified Vehicles. This is an International Event and vehicles of all different types will be accommodated for on the routes taken. There will be rollingstarts each day to ease any congestion. More info Visit ahmf.org.au/2020TourThe Robert Shannon Trust Foundation is designed to assist young enthusiasts to complete arestoration project. Schools and other education facilities and their projects are also considered. Applications for consideration should be sent in now to be considered by the end of June.The Federations website is up and running again after it had been compromised.In regards to the Luxury Car Tax we all need to contact our local Federal Politician to explainour concerns as it applies to all cars not only the new ones. Asbestos in Vehicles was talkedabout again and the result was unnegotiable.The New Motor Vehicle ACT regarding imports is in place now and they are working on the finer points. This covers cars, trucks, trailors and campervans and meetings held in Canberra, Melbourne and Sydney have been well represented by Vic Roads.The Bendigo Swap sites not booked by 28th Feb have been offered to those on the waiting list.The Bendigo Advertiser will print the magazine and Barn Finds are back on this year. The Bendigo Club will be represented in the big shed this year and wrist bands will be used for all siteholders and volunteers. A thanks to Harry and Lyn Black was in order for their years of doingthe magazine.Events: Marong Picnic 25th August (Sunday) arrive by 10.30 and leave after 2pm.Bendigo-Castlemaine Run before the Picnic on the 24th August.RACV Federation Golden Oldies Tour this year will start from Wunghnu and travel up into themountains starting 24th August 2019.The next Federation Meeting will be held in Mildura on 3 rd August.The Hobson Bay Mens Shed Motoring Group 19th OctoberThe meeting closed and I then displayed my Quadracycle before heading to Winton HistoricRaceway to put it on display again.CheersGeof Baulch

Page 13MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019Clearing Sale Report by Andrew BrandOn Sunday 19th May I attended a clearing sale at Woomelang. It was the lifetime collection of the late Mr.Glen Boxall and included cars, trucks, tractors, implements, machinery and parts from the veteran andvintage era through to the 1990's. I hadn't intended to go. As much as I like clearing sales, I've been under theweather lately and have been trying to take it easy. I had previously looked at the photos and although therewas clearly some T stuff, I couldn't see anything special enough to warrant a 4.5-hour drive, so I'd decided tolet this one pass.On the Thursday before the auction I happened to be looking at the updated photos (just in case!) and noticeda trailer frame made from what looked like a partial FN chassis sticking out of a large pile.Looking closer at the photos I thought I could seevarious cross members, front springs and a front axlestill attached. FN (Fabrique Nationale) cars areanother of my interests and it seemed to be the samemodel as mine.There are only 6 or 7 of that model surviving so itwas worth chasing for spares. I discussed it withFelicity and she was supportive but suggested thatgiven my dodgy health I should stay in a motel ratherthan sleep in the car. It was a wise idea and I reserveda room for Saturday night at the Birchip Motel whichwas only about 30 minutes from Woomelang.The trip to the property on Sunday morning was astream of empty trailers. As I pulled in to the parkingarea I noticed a lot of NSW number plates. I alsoheard one person say they had driven from Cranbourne that morning. Clearly the sale had attractedbuyers from a wide radius. There were over 450 lotsand several hundred buyers. I arrived at about 8.30and started systematically going through the lotslooking for Ford and FN parts. Considering theamount of stuff at the sale, it was surprising how littlemodel T stuff there was as a proportion. However,there were odd T parts distributed amongst it.I found the FN chassis still half buried in a pile ofscrap. Interestingly, the draw bar was made from apair of 26-27T frame rails. The whole pile was lot 238 which wasdescribed as "LARGE AMOUNT OF EARLY CAR& TRUCK PARTS WITH A PICK". "With a pick"means buyers can nominate items of interest to beauctioned separately, so that was my plan.I had noted items of interest and alternated betweenwatching particular lots going up for auction and more searching. It was fun to stand at a lot and wait for thethrong to surround you, then move on again. I did so at lot 85 which was a 1922-25 model T frame and axlesthat had been made into a farm trailer. It was in reasonably good condition and sold cheaply for 40. I spoketo the buyer who said he may take it to Ballarat swap to resell. I also watched a set of 1920's Tarrant hoodsockets sell for 100.

Page 14MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019When the FN lot came up I was there waiting so had a front row position. Before the auctioneer had finishedasking if anyone wanted particular items 3 blokes yelled out. It turned out 2 wanted the same thing - a Dodgecowl. That was auctioned then the third bloke nominated a mudguard from a Bren Gun Carrier. Once that wasfinished the auctioneer said, "Anyone else?" I said "Yep - the trailer frame sticking up in the air". Nobody elsewas interested, so I was the new owner. If I hadn't been there, it would have gone to scrap.Buying it was one thing, extracting it was another. There was a telehandler available at 20 per lift, but theywere busy with a queue of buyers waiting, so I decided I'd see what I could do. Everyone had followed theauctioneer to the next row of lots so there was nobody around to help. The chassis was surrounded by a tangleof engines, diffs with springs attached, driveshafts, etc. After about half an hour's work I had uncovered thechassis enough to tip it over, and from there I was able to drag it clear of the pile and back the trailer up to it.I was chastising myself for neglecting to bring a winch when I remembered I had some heavy-duty ratchet tiedowns. I was able to use those (along with some alternate heaving from behind) to skid the chassis up onto thetrailer. Once I had it tied down I took stock and decided that as much as I would have liked to stay for the restof the auction it was time for me to leave. I was pooped and there was still a 4.5 hour drive ahead of me.Apart from the FN parts I came home with some T parts: a pair of decent 1922-25 frame rails, a 1917-20 fan,and a 1909-14 front radius rod, bent but recoverable. The frame rails were picked out of another pile of scrapand again I was the only bidder. The radius rod was in the back of an Austin Seven and I was able to buy itfrom the new owner. Other T parts I saw were a front wheel, a few hubs, a 1919-25 transmission cover, a verynice steering wheel, a diff housing, a nice 1919-25 headlight with the lens intact, some good demountable rims,and a 1915 fork mounted headlight shell. The FN trailer frame will yield 2 things that were missing from mycar - one front spring and a motor support, so I'm very happy!Andrew Brand

Page 15MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019Monday’s Rally Report by Stephen BrownIt is now the last day of the tour we met out the front of the caravan park with most people packed with carson trailers. We got ready to set off on our way down to Glen Rowan about 10 AM. On our way to GlenRowan we stopped to seewhere the train was going tobe derailed, pretty sure weworked out where it was.After this we continued onour way into town where wehad a tour of the points ofinterest spots in town whichwere labelled 1 to 5. We alsochecked out the site of theold hotel where it had beenburn down in the Kelly’s laststand. After this some wentto check out the market andsome continued on their wayhome. It was a greatweekend. A big thank you toGeoff, Jo and John fororganising another great rallyand weekend!

Page 16MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019Model T Ford for SaleThe Car is 1927 Ford Model T Tourer.The registration is til 17th September 2019The engine number is C703964The chasis number is also C703964Comes with the history of ownership etc.Reasonable Offers considered.The car is currently located in Pakenham, inspections welcome byappointment.Genuine enquiries onlyInterested? Please contact the owner via email atagarwal.preety@gmail.com

Page 17MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019***For sale***

Page 18MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019For Sale 1927 Ford Model T Roadster***For sale***1927 Ford Model T Roadster - The vehicle is in very good overall condition although the body is notpristine, it is quite serviceable. I have owned the vehicle for approximately four years and I havedriven it approximately 200 kilometres in all that time.Mechanicallly it is very sound and drives well, the vehicle is fitted with the optional dual rangeRuxtall differential.Any inspection is welcome.For further information please contact Russell Baren on 0419 102 349Price: 22,500 negotiable

Page 19MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019FOR SALET FORD BITS AND PIECES1 x 30 x 3” tyre (secondhand) 402 x New “Firestone” Tyres 30 x 3” (ready to fit) 210 each4 x Hickory Hood Bows (New) Measure 1” x 1 ¾ “ x 54”outside 52” inside 95 each1 x 1912 Steering Column for veteran T 1251 x Flywheel, trans attached & Magnets (Complete Unit pre 1917 1001 x 1914 engine block Dated 30th March 1914 1,5001 pair 1912 muffler can ends & 2 mount bolts 2201 x 1913-16 fan 1501 x Veteran/Vintage Steel trunk VGC 29” W x 20” D x 15” H 1258 x New Shackle Bushes (steel) Front and rear set 351 x 1912 “Brown” tail lamp 5501 x 1915 Windscreen frame and scuttle 7001 x 1915 speedometer , Stewart Model 100, with mounting bolt and angled drive connector 2201 x 1914 “Stewart” speedometer Unit 2301 x 1919 Stewart Speedometer unit 1701 x Stewart speedometer, incomplete 1920 – 25 651 x 1925 – 27 trans cover plate 51 x 1926 – 27 hot air deflector plate (goes under floorboards) 101 x 1913 – 14 Speedo Cable assembly, steel 75Contact Bill FormbyPO Box 3 Drouin 3818Mob: 0488 288 164H: 03 5625 2344

Page 20MODEL T TORQUEJune 2019CALENDAR OF EVENTSJUNE 2019Fri 14th General MeetingJULY 2019Fri 12th AGMSun 14th ANNUAL PRESENTATION LUNCH @ Cardinia Park Hotel inSun 28th Ford Flathead Festival @ Caribbean Gardens and Market 10am til 2pmAUGUST 2019Fri 9th General MeetingSun 18th Rob Roy Hill ClimbSEPTEMBER 2019Fri 13th General MeetingSeptember 28th to October 9th National Rally Maryborough QueenslandOCTOBER 2019Fri 11th General MeetingNOVEMBER 2019Fri 1st to Tue 5th Melbourne Cup Weekend? Memory Lane back to Wangaratta30 yr AnniversaryFri 8th General MeetingththSat 16 Sun 17 Bendigo Swap MeetDECEMBER 2019Sun 1st Combined T and A Christmas Party @ Scout Hall AshburtonFri 13th General Meeting Christmas Breakup.BeaconsfieldREMINDER FOR UP COMING REGISTRATIONS T

We need ideas for future 1 day drives, rallies & activities please. Model T Nationals in Marybourgh QLD are approaching fast. Don t forget to check your cars mechanical no breakdowns, Make sure your trailers are in top order because the NSW/QLD roads are not! It is the T Club s turn to run the Christmas Party. If you have any raffle prize ideas or