Ellie Drake Interview

Now my tool is that I have a large online community of womenand I say, “You know what? While I'm doing that, let me assistyou so we that can do it together.”John:Mmm.Ellie:We can collaborate and grow and, ultimately, as you growindividually, and we grow collectively, I feel like empoweredwomen can make a huge difference and so, you know,somebody might say, “Ellie, is your purpose to have so manymillions of women in your community that you're going to bringworld peace?” And I'll say, “No. My purpose is to blossom andevolve as a woman. Now if we happen to do that as we goforward, great, but that is too big of a — a passion even for me towant to carry on my shoulders.” I want to really just feel like whatI commit to is something that brings me joy and, then, I want toshare it with others.John:Mmm. I love it. Let me ask you a question. For the woman orman, and by the way, everything that Ellie is talking about isapplicable to every one of the gentlemen that's listening rightnow, so make sure that you — you take that away. Did youalways feel empowered? Did you always feel like that was yourpurpose, or did you just discover it over time?Ellie:No. I definitely discovered it over time, and I'll share with youhow. You know, when I was growing up, you know, obviously,there were so many things like, women being so repressed. Iremember hearing as a five-or six-year-old, you know, as ayoung girl, when you're walking on the street with your husband,you know, I was hearing like older people talk about it. Theywere saying, “When you're walking on the street with yourhusband, make sure you're like walking two inches, you know,behind him.” You know, there are things like that, like, you know,that were so weird to even talk about here, because it's so not inthe context that we live in the Western world.John:Right.Ellie:And so I remember feeling that repression. So that was really the— the first — and feeling to myself, well I don't understand. Idon't get it. I don't get it. And, then, coming to America, and Iactually became a doctor because, you know, my parents camehere as typical immigrants. No money, no English, no family andfriends, and they said, "Ellie, you must become a doctor,because you are going to be our retirement plan."[Laughter]Copyright 2011 Praxis Now, LLC. All rights reserved.www.praxisnow.com

John:You were their retirement plan?Ellie:I'm telling you, they were not kidding, John. Because every day Iwas, you know, “We have to have two or three jobs a day, andwe're doing it only so you can become a doctor,” and so I, youknow, I actually became a doctor. I graduated as a health careprofessional a hundred and sixty thousand dollars in debt, and —and I remember about two years before graduating, I was sittingin some advanced microbiology class, and I would put a lot ofmousse, that's like hairspray, for the gentlemen on the call, put alot of mousse in my hair and make it like all puffy, so that I couldput a headset in my ears without the teacher seeing that I waslistening to Tony Robbins or Jim Rohn, or John Assaraf, youknow?And so a couple of years before graduating, I was like, this is notmy purpose, you know, becoming a doctor. I'm totally doing it formy parents, but I did it anyway. I graduated, I gave them mydoctor's diploma, and I said, “Guess what? I love you, you aremy dear parents and thank you for everything you have done forme, but I am not going to practice as a doctor.” So then what Idid was — the next level of my journey was, I really likedinspiring others. And not only that, I — I mean, I couldn't evenspeak English. I wanted to inspire others, so I started — I startedto do that little by little. I started remember talking to, like, ten,twenty, thirty people at a time, and — and — and speaking, andthat's where the inspirational speaker, that usually people callme, that is where it came from, and I had so many men andwomen within a few years I was traveling almost every weekend,and I was going to different, just events that people were hiringme — hiring me for, and I was just inspiring them.And, then, what I started doing was that I started having moreadvanced type of training just for women, and I started noticingthat, after collaborating with women, and sharing some of thethings that I was experiencing, I started seeing incredible shiftshappen in their personal and professional life. And I believe thatwas the beginning of the next level for me, sort of like that littlesilent voice of purpose that says, you know, “Your purpose mayhave to be to empower women,” and so that is really where itwent to, and I started working with women, and I realized that theonly reason why I was doing it was to really grow and evolvemyself.Now remember, I said, you know, when I was five or six yearsold it was all about repression?John:Mmm-hmm.Copyright 2011 Praxis Now, LLC. All rights reserved.www.praxisnow.com

Ellie:So now I started experiencing that I feel my purpose is to alsoinspire women, no matter where we are living, to really leadpurposeful lives, that — and — and blossom, and — and bemore uninhibited, and be able to own your voice, and be able tomake a difference for yourself, your family, your community, andthe world. So now repression is turning into expression for me.And — and — and that is, I feel, you know, the — how myjourney has evolved to this moment.John:So I love what you just said, is that you must learn to own yourown voice. Everybody, men, women, children, who's listening.Listen to that. You must learn to own your own voice, and theother thing I love that you just said, Ellie, is turn your oppressioninto expression.Ellie:Yes.John:And so, you know, it sounds to me you — you took some of the— I'm going to say this gently. You took some of the mess andyou made it the message.Ellie:Yeah, definitely.John:I love it.Ellie:Definitely, John.John:Absolutely wonderful. When entrepreneurs struggle, when itcomes to manifesting success, what do you recommend theydo? And — and I guess we — we don't — it doesn’t just need tobe for entrepreneurs, but when people struggle to manifestsuccess in their own life, what do you recommend that they do?Ellie:Yes, that's a really great question, as well, John, because somany of us do, and — and I did. At the beginning of my journeyas an entrepreneur, for many years I felt like I was driving on thehighway over the speed limit, yet my brakes were on. I was insuch feeling of resistance. It felt so condensed. You know, it's theopposite of flow. It's like having to — to climb the mountain whileactually, you know, carrying a big, big, load on your shoulders,versus going with the flow of the river, and it really is like that.And what I started realizing is that there was a program, Therewas this — just like the software of our computer, I had in thesoftware of — of my mind over the years as I was growing up. Ijust had one message that was being played over, and over, andover again. And it was amazing, because when I realized whatthat message was, and I released that, and I released the needto want to keep that, because sometimes we even realize it, thatCopyright 2011 Praxis Now, LLC. All rights reserved.www.praxisnow.com

— that — that's not serving me anymore, and we still keep —keep on — hold on to something and —John:Too many — too many of us hold on to stuff too long.Ellie:Yeah. And you know, for me, I remember when I was growingup, my father used to tell me that one — one part of the PersianPoem, and he thought that this was going to really help me. Heused to tell me over and over again. Literally, by the time I wasten years old, I probably heard him sing this to me in a verypoetic and joyous manner, like ten thousand times.John:Let's hear it, Darling.Ellie:So — so I'll tell you in just a second. So what happened was, I —I remember — I downloaded that into myself, you know, thinkingthat that — yes. I'm gonna definitely — I’m gonna definitely, keepthat and lead my life like that. He would look at me and he wouldsay: [Reciting Persian Poem]Ellie:And he would just tell me that, so many times, and what it meansis that, in order for you to become successful, or to get to thetreasure, you have to suffer first.John:Ooh, wow! One more time. So he would sing that to you?Ellie:Yeah. It's a very positive thing. It's a really positive thing,Persian, you know, In Persian it means, look, if you want to besuccessful, you've gotta do what unsuccessful people don't do,but in this context. And that is, if you want to become — if youwant to get to the treasure, you have to suffer first. So don't giveup when you're suffering. That's really what it means, and it’skind of a — John: Wow! I love it. I love it.Ellie:So although, it's kind of positive, John, but what it did —John:Right.Ellie:— is that created a negative feeling in myself, thinking that, okay,so the struggle part of it has to be the one that I reallyexperience. So — so I can't create abundance and prosperity onthis, I go through, you know, at least several years of reallystruggling. Right? Because, you know, if you get it so easy, if youget it with ease, if you don't struggle, then it's not real. Right?Because this — this poem said, “In order for you to get to thetreasure, you have to suffer first.” And — and it wasn't until Irealized that, my goodness, I am struggling in my businessCopyright 2011 Praxis Now, LLC. All rights reserved.www.praxisnow.com

because, that's what I'm doing. I'm suffering in order to get to thetreasure. And I really had to get down to — to releasing. And it'slike a — like a vibration. It's like an energy in yourself. And —and there is a charge to it, really. There is like an electricitycharge to it, and it wasn't until I learned how to release that, lmost like detox, and — and let it go from every cell of my bodythat for me, success did not have to be like that.John:Oh, I love it.Ellie:And I shifted my understanding that I started creating — I startedcreating results in a different way. And still today I have to remindmyself to — to release one program and to activate another. AndI believe that we struggle as entrepreneurs. Your question was,you know, what do we do if we're struggling as entrepreneurs, isbecause there is one program, or maybe more than one, butusually one thing inside of us that's inside of every cell. It'sbecome — it's the visceral part of us. It's not just the thinkingprocess. It's the visceral part of who we are. It's like it'sconnected to who we are, and — and that is leading us. And —and in order — and in order for us to really change and shift, wehave to say, “Well where did it come from? First of all, what is it?Where did it come from? And am I willing to do the work, to havethe courage, to fully let it go and, then, to replace it withsomething that I choose that is relevant to where I want to go?John: Wow! That is so powerful. So — so powerful. And — and,first and foremost, my — my hat goes off to you, „cause I know,you know, I come from — from Israel, and I heard some verysimilar stuff when I was a kid and went through the bombingsand things like that back in the — in — in the 1960s, and so Iknow what you're talking about to some degree, but the — thefact that you turned it around, and now that you're empoweringwomen and men all over the world to do that, and if you continueto do that and use yourself as an example, and, then, surroundyourself with other people to show them, “Hey, let's do thistogether.” I absolutely love that. Absolutely love that. So withthat, I want to ask you a question.Ellie:Yes.John:And again, this is — because I know you've made millions ofdollars and, more importantly, you — you've helped so manypeople. Do you have a formula for attracting or havingabundance that you can share with the people that are listeningright now?Ellie:Yeah, absolutely.Copyright 2011 Praxis Now, LLC. All rights reserved.www.praxisnow.com

John:Yeah, Baby, tell them.Ellie:My formula for attracting abundance has changed and evolved,you know. It used to be much more hip years and years ago.Just have a positive mindset and just do it, just, you know, keepon doing what others aren't willing to do, and still it is a lot likethat, but really it's become much more, much more grounded inattracting abundance right now. So right now where I am — andremember I'm always evolving, so this formula could change intwo years — but right now where I am I feel like my formula forattracting abundance is this. I have to be grounded in myinspiration, and I'll share what that means for me. And, then, Ihave to take right action, long enough, consistently, detachedfrom the outcome with ease, while I consistently release myissues. So let me say that again.John:Okay, one more time, take two more times.Ellie:Now, I'll say it a couple more times because every part of it to meis an ingredient in my abundance formula. So as I have to be — Imust be grounded in inspiration.John:Grounded in inspiration.Ellie:Grounded in inspiration, while taking right action long enough,consistently, detached from outcome with ease, while alwaysreleasing my issues.John:While always releasing your issues. I love it. That is — that isbeautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I hope — I hope a few of youcaptured that, because this is priceless. This is priceless. Goldennuggets is what we're getting today. I love that, Ellie.Ellie:Yeah, so I what I can do, John, is share just a little bit about whyeach one is so important.John:Go ahead, Darlin’. Go.Ellie:You'd like me to do that? Okay.John:Yeah!Ellie:So grounded inspiration. So I say, “Grounded inspiration,”because I hear so many people say, “I'm inspired to, you know,become the best singer in the world,” and — and, then, thequestion is, you know, “Is singing your purpose?” Do you — doCopyright 2011 Praxis Now, LLC. All rights reserved.www.praxisnow.com

you feel, or do you just want to become the best singer becauseyou feel like there is money and fame involved with it? So yourinspiration can't just be some, “Oh, I'm inspired to, you know, endpoverty by 2012.” It's not grounded enough. It has to begrounded inspiration to where it's not all there just up in theether. It has to be in you. You have to feel it, and it's somethingthat you really connect with and, on some level, you can manageyourself.So grounded inspiration and, then, right action, because we cantake a lot of action steps and they're the wrong action steps, youknow. I can say that I'm going to pick up the phone and call NewYork Times to see if they want to do an article on me, and spend,you know, a year on chasing that action step, while it's not rightaction. Right action should be — I should pick up the phone, andcall my prospects. I'm not willing to do that, but I'm — I’m willingto just sort of be in fantasy about action. So that's the other one.Now, long enough, always, obviously, we know, we — we aspeople are not willing usually to do something long enough,because we do it for ninety days and, then, we go, “When is itgoing to happen? When is it going to happen?” So, if you'redoing something long enough, you shouldn't be asking questionsthat begin with "When." Then consistently. You know, you couldbe doing something for five years. “I've been doing this for fiveyears but I haven't succeeded.” Really? How often, like onceevery six months? So, consistently. And, of course, detachedfrom outcome, because I have seen entrepreneurs do this overand over again. “I'm doing the right thing. I’m — I'm doing them,you know, I'm — I’m doing the right things. I'm following myinspiration, I'm taking right action, and it's going to happen, youknow, ninety days from now. It — I can feel it's right around thecorner.” And that's being so attached to the outcome, as well. Sowhen you're detached from outcome, you don't ask questionsthat have to do with how big, or how much, or how soon.And with ease, so a lot of people are doing everything, butthey're struggling through it because, let's just say that you havea product or a service that you offer. And let's just say thatsomebody returned your product and service. They wanted arefund. They don't want it. How are you going to handle that? Areyou going to say, “I can't believe they returned my product.What's wrong with my product? What's wrong with me? I don'twant that to ever happen again.” Or are you going to deal with itwith ease and say, “Okay. Great. So they didn't like it. Noproblem. In fact, if I'm successful, and I'm doing a lot, and I'mselling a lot of products that day, then I'll have a lot of people,you know, returning them. If nobody's returning my product, it’sbecause I'm not selling enough.” So with ease.Copyright 2011 Praxis Now, LLC. All rights reserved.www.praxisnow.com

And, then, always release your issues. And that goes back withwhat we just talked about, John, and one of my issues was that Iused to think that, in order for you to become successful, youhave to struggle. And so you have to be able to be a goodstudent of yourself and realize what are some of your issues?People always say to me, “Well, they said that to me, and I'mhaving an issue with it.” Well, it's not about what they said. It'sabout what issue you're having with it. So, if you can know whatyour issue is, and you release your issue, then what they saidbecomes irrelevant. So that's each of those ingredients.John:That was an amazing formula for tracking abundance, but alsofor being responsible, and I love that because, you know,especially the last part you said, you know. It — it's your issue,and so what I'm also hearing between the lines, or between whatyou just said, Ellie, is — is you have learned and are learning, aswe all are, how not to allow outside circumstances to control yourthinking. You're taking responsibility for what you are thinkingand manipulating that.Ellie:Yes, very good, John. Absolutely, and — and you know, where Iam right now, if I allow some external circumstance to affect me,I take that pretty seriously, and I go, you know, “What is it aboutyou that you haven't let go of, Ellie?” And so, yeah.John:So you make it personal. You said — everybody, did you hearwhat she said? “What is it about you, Ellie,” not what it aboutyou, the other person, or the circumstance. “What is it about methat is causing me to react that way?”Ellie:Oh, yeah, I take it personally with myself. Like, I don't take itpersonally to get offended. I don't look for situations to beoffended about, but I take it personally. I go, “Okay,” which —which for me means I'm looking at my own personal self and Igo, “What is it about me? What is it about you, Ellie, that — thatwas not able to take that with ease?” Or, you know, “What doyou still have inside of you that needs to be let go of, which iswhat you just experienced here?”John:Mmm. I love it.

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