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No. 19-635IN THESupreme Court of the United StatesDONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States,Petitioner,v.CYRUS R. VANCE, JR., in his official capacity asDistrict Attorney of the County of New York; MAZARSUSA, LLP.,Respondents.ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATESCOURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUITREPLY BRIEF FOR PETITIONERWilliam S. ConsovoyAlexa R. BaltesCONSOVOY MCCARTHY PLLC1600 Wilson Boulevard, Ste. 700Arlington, VA 22201(703) 243-9423will@consovoymccarthy.comPatrick StrawbridgeCONSOVOY MCCARTHY PLLCTen Post Office Square8th Floor South PMB #706Boston, MA 02109patrick@consovoymccarthy.comJay Alan SekulowCounsel of RecordStuart J. RothJordan SekulowCONSTITUTIONAL LITIGATIONAND ADVOCACY GROUP, P.C.1701 Pennsylvania Ave, NW, Ste. 200Washington, DC 20006(202) 546-8890jsekulow@claglaw.comDate: March 27, 2020Attorneys for President Donald J. Trump

iTABLE OF CONTENTSPageTABLE OF CONTENTS . iTABLE OF CITED AUTHORITIES . iiREPLY BRIEF. 1I.II.This subpoena is barred by thePresident’s immunity. 3A.The District Attorneyacknowledges that immunity canextend to process targetingunofficial acts . 3B.This category of process interfereswith the President’s official duties . 6C.Clinton and Nixon do not requirea different result . 12D.The Constitution strikes thebalance in favor of immunity. 16The District Attorney lacks aheightened need for these documents . 20III. The judgment should not be affirmedeven under the District Attorney’scase-specific approach . 22

iiTABLE OF CITED AUTHORITIESPage(s)CasesApplication of Di Cocco,354 N.Y.S.2d 990 (1975) . 8Cheney v. U.S. Dist. Court for Dist. ofColumbia,542 U.S. 367 (2004) . 13, 20, 21, 22Clinton v. Jones,520 U.S. 681 (1997) . passimCohen v. United States,578 F.3d 1 (D.C. Cir. 2009) . 24Douglas Oil Co. v. Petrol Stops Nw.,441 U.S. 211 (1979) . 11In re Criminal Investigation No. 1,542 A.2d 413 (Md. Ct. Spec. App. 1988) . 8In re Sealed Case,121 F.3d 729 (D.C. Cir. 1997) . 21Matter of Dist. Atty. of Suffolk Cty.,448 N.E.2d 440 (N.Y. 1983) . 11Nixon v. Fitzgerald,457 U.S. 731 (1982) . passimNixon v. Sirica,487 F.2d 700 (D.C. Cir. 1973) . 15-16O’Connor v. Donaldson,422 U.S. 563 (1975) . 23

iiiPeople v. Fetcho,698 N.E.2d 935 (N.Y. 1998) . 11People v. Minet,73 N.E.2d 529 (N.Y. 1947) . 12Trump v. Hawaii,138 S. Ct. 2392 (2018) . 24Trump v. Mazars USA, LLP,No. 19A545 (Nov. 25, 2019) . 24-25United States v. Burr,25 F. Cas. 30 (C.C.D. Va. 1807);25 F. Cas. 187 (C.C.D. Va. 1807) . 16United States v. Fromme,405 F. Supp. 578 (E.D. Cal. 1975) . 16United States v. Helstoski,635 F.2d 200 (3d Cir. 1980) . 10United States v. McLeod,385 F.2d 734 (5th Cir. 1967) . 13-14United States v. Nixon,418 U.S. 683 (1974) . 1Virag v. Hynes,430 N.E.2d 1249 (N.Y. 1981) . 8StatutesN.Y. Crim. Proc. L. § 190.25(4) . 12N.Y. Crim. Proc. L. § 190.50(5) . 9

ivOther AuthoritiesBrett M. Kavanaugh, The President and theIndependent Counsel, 86 Geo. L.J. 2133(1998) . 15Lawrence M. Friedman, The Legal System: ASocial Science Perspective (1975) . 15Neal Kumar Katyal, The Public and PrivateLives of Presidents,8 Wm. & Mary Bill of Rts. J. 677 (2000) . 14Randolph D. Moss, Asst. Att’y Gen., A SittingPresident’s Amenability to Indictment andCriminal Prosecution, 24 O.L.C. Op. 222(Oct. 16, 2000) (“Moss Memo”) . 11, 12, 19Susan Low Bloch, Cleaning Up the LegalDebris Left in the Wake of Whitewater,43 St. Louis U. L.J. 779 (1999) . 14

REPLY BRIEFThe District Attorney’s brief confirms that thePresident should have temporary immunity from thissubpoena. He concedes that legal process aimed atunofficial acts of the President is barred by immunityif it interferes with the President’s official duties. Andhe does not dispute that the President is a target ofthe grand jury and that, because these records belongto the President, he may test the subpoena’s validityin federal court.The District Attorney thus narrowly defendsthe decision below by arguing that this subpoena doesnot interfere with the President’s execution of officialduties. He is wrong twice over. First, what counts iswhether a category of process—be it official damagesactions, unofficial civil actions, or third-party criminaltrial subpoenas—could impair the President’s abilityto faithfully execute his duties. Second, giving everystate and local prosecutor this power inevitably woulddivert the President’s time and energy, would givestates and localities an avenue for retaliation againsthim when disagreements arise, and would stigmatizethe office. The District Attorney asks the Court to betthat these risks will not materialize. The Constitutiondoes not permit the Court to accept such a wager. Thenation needs the President’s undivided attention,especially in times of crisis. The Constitution does nottolerate the risk of interference this type of criminalprocess invites.No precedent requires a different result. UnitedStates v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974), and Clinton v.

2Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997), involved federal processand did not risk the kind of distraction that this typeof state process does. Nor does any interference withthe grand jury’s work override the need for immunity.The President’s claim is narrow and any interferenceis minimal. Even if this were a close case, however,our constitutional design prioritizes safeguarding thepresidency over the needs of the grand jury.At the very least, the District Attorney needs toshow that he has a heightened need for these recordsbefore being heard to complain about obstruction ofthe grand jury. Indeed, a heightened-need standard isnecessary to implement the District Attorney’s ownmistaken test. After all, the only way to assess—shortof discovery into the grand jury’s work—whether thesubpoena is too burdensome or issued in bad faith isto require the District Attorney to show he needs theserecords. The District Attorney concedes that he hasnot attempted to show heightened need. Nor could hegiven the inexplicable decision to copy a congressionalsubpoena.In all events, the Court should not affirm on acase-specific basis without affording the President theopportunity to develop a factual record. There was nochance to do so below, any findings the district courtmade have been vacated, and the President is entitledto adduce evidence on heightened need, bad faith, andinterference with official duties. Immunity should notturn on the facts of this case. But if it does, those factsshould be found before judgment is entered.

3I.This subpoena is barred by the President’simmunity.A.The District Attorney acknowledgesthat immunity can extend to processtargeting unofficial acts.The District Attorney spends considerable time(at 12-17) arguing that immunity extends only to“official conduct” and not to “private acts.” But heeventually concedes (at 13) that immunity applies toall forms of legal process that “directly implicate orotherwise substantially interfere with a President’sofficial duties.” He thus agrees that process aimed at“unofficial, private conduct” is barred by immunity ifit is “unreasonably burdensome” or “unduly distractsa President” from official duties. Brief for Respondent(“Resp.”) 22-23. Cementing the point, the DistrictAttorney declines to dispute that a “President is notamenable to criminal prosecution” for unofficial acts.Resp. 24-25. The President and the United States, inother words, are correct about what triggersimmunity. Brief for Petitioner (“Pet.”) 29-34; AmicusBrief of United States (“U.S.”) 10-11.Instead of disputing the relevant legal theory,the District Attorney argues (at 23) that the Presidentmust make “a case-specific showing that the processwill interfere with Article II functions” because any“potential interference with the ability to performofficial presidential functions” is insufficient. In theDistrict Attorney’s view, “a factually supported claimof actual interference with Article II functions” iswhat triggers immunity. Id.

4The District Attorney’s argument is erroneous.The Court uses a categorical, forward-looking inquiryto decide if the President is entitled to immunity. Pet.36-37. “Article II provides an immunity from anyprocess that would risk impairing the independence ofhis office or interfering with the performance of itsfunctions.” U.S. 5 (emphasis added). That is why theCourt inquires whether “this particular case—as wellas the potential additional litigation that anaffirmance of the Court of Appeals judgment mightspawn—may impose an unacceptable burden on thePresident’s time and energy, and thereby impair theeffective performance of his office.” Clinton, 520 U.S.at 701-02 (emphasis added). The District Attorneydoes not address or reconcile his argument with thiscontrolling precedent.Nixon v. Fitzgerald illustrates the DistrictAttorney’s error. The plaintiff in that case obviouslywould have prevailed if immunity turned on a “casespecific” showing of interference. President Nixon hadbeen out of office for years by the time the case wasdecided. Holding him liable for civil damages in thatcase could not have impaired his exercise of officialduties. He prevailed because the Court focused onwhether this category of process—civil damages forofficial acts—created a risk that “a President,” “thePresident’s office,” and “the Presidency” would behampered if this kind of litigation were permitted. 457U.S. 731, 751-53 (1982). The Court focused on if“personal vulnerability frequently could distract aPresident from his public duties”—not whether itwould in that case. Id. at 753 (emphasis added).

5The District Attorney’s test also fails on its ownterms. Under his approach, the President would needto make a winning “case specific” immunity argumentin each and every case if state and local prosecutorsfrom many jurisdictions simultaneously embroil thePresident in criminal proceedings. Immunity wouldbe unavailable in every case because no one subpoena(in the District Attorney’s mistaken view) “wouldunduly interfere with [the President’s] ability to carryout his official duties.” Resp. 48. That would be so evenif five or ten or twenty different local prosecutorsissued subpoenas similar to the one at issue here.This logic is flawed. Immunity does not turn onwhether the interference with the President’s officialduties stems from one legal proceeding or from many.The cumulative effect of multiple proceedings cannotbe disregarded. Yet, under the District Attorney’s test,it seemingly must be.The Court has reached varying judgments as towhether a certain category of process would interferewith the President’s official duties. Compare Clinton,520 U.S. at 708, with Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. at 751-53,758. But the Court has always reached that judgmentby forecasting what could happen in the category ofcases at issue if immunity were denied—not on theburdens attendant to allowing that specific dispute togo forward. So too here.

6B.This category of process interfereswith the President’s official duties.The premise of the President’s immunityclaim—viz., that he is a grand-jury target and he isthe subpoena’s ultimate recipient—is not seriouslycontested. That category of legal process interfereswith the President’s official duties and, accordingly,violates Article II and the Supremacy Clause. Pet. 2839. The District Attorney’s contrary arguments allmiss the mark.The District Attorney notes (at 29 & n.10) thatonly the President “described” himself “as a ‘target’ ofthe grand jury investigation at issue” and that thesubpoena “does not identify petitioner (or anyone else)as a ‘target’” of the grand jury. It is unfortunate thatthe District Attorney chooses to play word games onan issue of such importance. The President plainly isnot a third party. The District Attorney alreadyconceded the President is “a subject of theinvestigation.” Respondent Brief in Opposition 12.And, even as he plays coy, the District Attorneycannot help but acknowledge (at 29) that he convenedthe grand jury to investigate “petitioner and multipleother persons and entities” and (at 31) that this is a“[c]riminal investigation of a President’s privateconduct.” The District Attorney has been given manychances to disclaim that he is targeting the Presidentfor possible indictment. He has pointedly refused to doso. That the President is a target is not a contestedissue. Pet. 34-35; U.S. 2.

7The District Attorney also does not contest thatthis subpoena should be treated as if it were issued tothe President directly. He erroneously argues (at 50)that the burden on the President is diminished herebecause Mazars is tasked with compliance. Infra 23.But the District Attorney (at 50) acknowledges thatthe “underlying documents” are the President’s andhe “has standing to challenge a subpoena seekingthem.” The concession is wise. Pet. 35-36; U.S. 24-25.Instead of contesting the factual premise of thePresident’s claim, the District Attorney challenges itslegal merit. Specifically, he argues (at 26) that thejustifications for “immunity from prosecution do notapply to grand jury investigations into unofficialconduct.” The President, the argument goes, won’t bedeluged with “vexatious and harassing investigations”if every state and local prosecutor can target him withcriminal subpoenas because they can all “be trusted toexercise their investigatory power responsibly when itcomes to a President.” Resp. 32. This is not a safeassumption, Pet. 26-28, as the Framers understood,U.S. 17.The District Attorney’s reliance (at 34-35) onthe presumption of regularity is misplaced. The issuehere is not bad faith per se, but the undeniable factthat state and local prosecutors necessarily placegreater emphasis on state and local interests thannational ones. U.S. 18-19. That usually is not a federalconcern. But criminally targeting the President withcoercive process is not an “‘ordinary’” circumstance.Nixon, 418 U.S. at 708. He is the officeholder that theConstitution assigns “matters likely to ‘arouse the

8most intense feelings,’” Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. at 752;U.S. 16-17. Article II therefore ensures that federalcourts are available to protect the national interest ina presidency unencumbered by criminal subpoenasissued to protect local interests.The presumption of regularity is particularlymisplaced given the broad mandate of a grand jury.The District Attorney asserts (at 35-38) that statecourts, jurisdictional limitations, and ethical rules cancurb any impulse to inappropriately investigate thePresident. But the state-court system is designed tokeep grand-jury investigations from being “hindered”by legal challenges to grand-jury subpoenas. Virag v.Hynes, 430 N.E.2d 1249, 1253 (N.Y. 1981). Therefore,state courts can quash a grand-jury subpoena only ifthe recipient proves it has “‘no conceivable relevance’”to an investigation. Id.As for “jurisdictional limitations,” it is not at allclear that they constrain the scope of a subpoena—asopposed to merely providing a basis for dismissing asubsequent indictment. See Application of Di Cocco,354 N.Y.S.2d 990, 994-95 (1975) (“A witness is notentitled to challenge the authority of the grand juryprovided it has de facto organization and existence.”);In re Criminal Investigation No. 1, 542 A.2d 413, 416(Md. Ct. Spec. App. 1988) (concluding that “a subjectunder investigation by a grand jury” has “no right” tochallenge the grand jury’s authority “until anindictment is handed down”). Indeed, this case showshow little protection ordinary grand jury rules affordthe President. This subpoena was copied verbatimfrom one utilized in a congressional investigation of

9issues far beyond the District Attorney’s jurisdiction.The suggestion that state law affords the Presidentadequate protection from overzealous state and localprosecutors is simply meritless.Thus, allowing state and local prosecutors tofollow the District Attorney’s lead will produce all theharms that justify immunity. Subpoenas of this typewill distract the President from official duties, renderhim cautious in executing those duties, and stigmatizethe office. Pet. 29-34. For at least four reasons, theDistrict Attorney’s objections are misplaced.First, the District Attorney (at 48-50) focuseson physical burdens of compliance.1 But the diversionof mental focus is important and must be considered.Pet. 30-32, 37-38. The President has immense andunique responsibilities. Pet. 20-21; U.S. 8-11. He is onduty every minute of every hour of every day. Thus,unlike “the other branches” where “the Constitutiondivides [authority] among many,” the President is “asingle, constitutionally indispensable, individual[with] ultimate authority.” Clinton, 520 U.S. at 712(Breyer, J., concurring in the judgment). That isespecially true in times of national crisis. In thosemoments, more than any other time, the nationrequires the President’s undivided attention.The District Attorney (at 48) partly bases his argumentabout the lack of a physical burden on the fact that the subpoena“does not require [the President] to appear at a hearing or testifyunder oath.” Even if that’s true, the subpoena could force him tochoose between invoking his right to do so, N.Y. Crim. Proc. L.§190.50(5), and focusing on official duties.1

10Issuing criminal process to the President toevaluate whether he should be indicted can “have theeffect of . diverting his time, energy, and attentionfrom his public duties.” U.S. 23. As Justice Breyer hasexplained: “a lawsuit that significantly distracts anofficial from his public duties can distort the contentof a public decision just as can a threat of potentialfuture liability” for official acts. Clinton, 520 U.S. at721. The concern should apply with special force to agrand-jury subpoena. Pet. 38. The District Attorneynever tries to explain why a threat of criminalprosecution coupled with a coercive subpoena for alitany of records would not distract the President fromhis official duties. The omission is telling.Second, the District Attorney never addressesthe concern that letting state and local prosecutorsharness this authority might keep the President from“‘deal[ing] fearlessly and impartially’” with the States.Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. at 752; Pet. 32. States andlocalities often disagree with the choices made by thePresident. He must make hard decisions about whereto deploy scarce resources for matters ranging fromthe routine to the controversial. The prospect of statesand localities registering their disagreement throughinvestigations could “render [the President] undulycautious in the discharge of his official duties.”Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. at 752 n.32. The “threat of anindictment is enough to intimidate” any official “andjeopardize his independence.” United States v.Helstoski, 635 F.2d 200, 205 (3d Cir. 1980). This isprecisely a situation, then, in which a state or localitycould “attempt[] to dictate how a federal officer carriesout an official function.” Resp. 15.

11Third, the District Attorney claims (at 27-28)that this type of criminal process does not “impose anycognizable stigmatic burdens on a President either”because, unlike indictment, a grand-jury subpoena isa “signal[] only that an investigation is underway”—not “an ‘official pronouncement’ of wrongdoing.” Acriminal target, the District Attorney claims (at 28),should be bursting with pride to have the opportunityto fulfill his “civic obligation to participate fully in agrand jury investigation.”This one-sided logic blinks reality—at leastwhen it comes to officeholders and other well-knowntargets. The existence of the criminal investigation isused to score political points and damage the target’sreputation. This dispute is a case study. The politicalmotivation for issuing this subpoena is transparent.Pet. 1-8, 27-28. Even while asking this Court toassume that a sitting President cannot be prosecuted,the District Attorney makes thinly veiled threats tobring an indictment. Resp. 25-26 & n.8-n.9. The pointof this grand-jury investigation is to stigmatize andpolitically harm the President. The “public stigma andopprobrium” this kind of process carries justifiesimmunity. Moss Memo at 246.Contrary to the District Attorney’s suggestion(at 29), grand jury secrecy is unlikely to solve thisproblem. Secrecy is not an absolute rule. Douglas OilCo. v. Petrol Stops Nw., 441 U.S. 211, 219-20 (1979).That is certainly true in New York. Matter of Dist.Atty. of Suffolk Cty., 448 N.E.2d 440, 443-44 (N.Y.1983); People v. Fetcho, 698 N.E.2d 935, 938 (N.Y.1998). And, in New York, “secrecy” is not “imposed

12upon a witness before a grand jury either as to the factthat he has testified or as to the testimony given byhim.” People v. Minet, 73 N.E.2d 529, 533 (N.Y. 1947);N.Y. Crim. Proc. L. §190.25(4). It is also “very difficultto preserve [the] secrecy” of criminal allegations whenthe President is involved. Moss Memo 259; e.g., Pet. 6.Fourth, the District Attorney (at 32-33) arguesthat the subpoena’s unprecedented nature cuts in hisfavor because it shows that state and local prosecutorsact responsibly. But the Court has been clear that lackof precedent is evidence that the novel assertion ofauthority lacks historical roots—not that there hasbeen 230 years of voluntary abstinence. Pet. 28; U.S.22-23. That this Court has, time and again, needed tostop “state grand juries . from targeting federalofficials for official acts,” Resp. 36, should confirm thatall bets are off once state and local prosecutors areassured that they can target a sitting President giventheir natural focus on issues of local concern to thedetriment of the national interest.C.Clinton and Nixon do not require adifferent result.The District Attorney repeatedly cites Clintonand Nixon as key precedent supporting affirmance.He argues (at 48) that immunity should be denied inthis case since “the potential burdens of the Subpoenaare minimal when compared with the judicialprocesses this Court has ratified” in those cases. Butthe premise is flawed. The burdens associated with

13this process are more severe than those involved inClinton and Nixon.Neither case involved state process. This is adecisive distinction. Pet. 40-41; U.S. 17-22. Stateprocess raises “concerns that are quite different fromthe interbranch separation-of-powers questions” thatfederal process raises. Clinton, 520 U.S. at 691 n.13.But according to the District Attorney (at 16), theSupremacy Clause is inapplicable when unofficial actsare at issue. He acknowledges (at 16 n.6), however,that Clinton reserved that very issue when it comes tostate process aimed at the President. The DistrictAttorney’s attempt to reconcile his position with thatreservation misses badly. The Court was concerned,and rightly so, that letting states and localities targetthe President’s unofficial acts risks interference withofficial duties in ways that federal process aimed atunofficial acts does not.In both Clinton and Nixon, it mattered that thedisputes were under the supervision of federal courts.Pet. 41; U.S. 19-20. The absence of such federaloversight here should have equal significance. A claimfor immunity from federal process requires that thePresident’s interests be balanced against the coequalrole of Article III courts. Nixon, 418 U.S. at 707;Cheney v. U.S. Dist. Court for Dist. of Columbia, 542U.S. 367, 384-85 (2004). The Constitution, however,does not “balance” federal authority against stateinterests. Pet. 23-25. Federal courts are “reluctant tointerfere with state criminal proceedings,” but “‘thesharp edge of the Supremacy Clause cuts across allsuch generalizations.’” United States v. McLeod, 385

14F.2d 734, 745 (5th Cir. 1967). The District Attorneyhimself now accepts that the state system is not theappropriate forum when “a county prosecutor . hasopened a criminal investigation that involves thesitting President, and the President has invokedfederal jurisdiction ‘to vindicate the superior federalinterests embodied in Article II and the SupremacyClause.’” App. 12a; Resp. Br. 37 n.13.Further, the District Attorney does not—andcannot—dispute that the Attorney General’s ability tomanage the issuance of legal process is a feature thatcannot be replicated at the state level. Pet. 41. Theconcern about an avalanche of criminal subpoenastargeting the President is not present in federal court.U.S. 17-18. The concern that the President will bedeterred from vigorously fulfilling the responsibilitiesof his office for concern of political retribution likewiseis diminished at the federal level.In Clinton, the District Attorney notes (at 33),the Court deemed it “unlikely that a deluge of suchlitigation [would] ever engulf the Presidency.” 520U.S. at 702. Whether that prediction proved correct isfar less clear than the District Attorney believes. E.g.,Neal Kumar Katyal, The Public and Private Lives ofPresidents, 8 Wm. & Mary Bill of Rts. J. 677, 683 n.33(2000); Susan Low Bloch, Cleaning Up the LegalDebris Left in the Wake of Whitewater, 43 St. Louis U.L.J. 779, 781 (1999); U.S. 21. Even if the predictionhas been vindicated, however, the differences betweenthat situation and this one counsel a different result.The Court should not deny the President’s claim bygambling that state and local prosecutors will not

15avail themselves of the power to target this and futurePresidents with criminal process.The potential stigmatic harms also are greaterhere given that Clinton involved civil litigation andthe President was not a target in Nixon. Pet. 41-43.The District Attorney’s claim (at 30) that stigmaticharms associated with finding that “the President hadacted improperly or unlawfully” in a civil case exceedthose associated with being a criminal target is ipsedixit. In the main, “stigma and shame are not salientin civil litigation,” while a “criminal penalty is morepowerful . because of the unofficial penalties it dragsalong in its wake.” Lawrence M. Friedman, The LegalSystem: A Social Science Perspective 136 (1975).The District Attorney’s attempt to brush asidethe important distinction between being a criminaltarget and being issued a “third-party subpoena ducestecum” also should be rejected. Nixon, 418 U.S. at 686;Clinton, 520 U.S. at 718 (Breyer, J., concurring in thejudgment) (“the President participated as a witness”in Nixon). Unlike here, the Nixon special prosecutormade clear that he was not considering an indictmentof the President. Brett M. Kavanaugh, The Presidentand the Independent Counsel, 86 Geo. L.J. 2133, 2158(1998). He understood that impeachment—notprosecution—is the proper way to pursue presidentialwrongdoing. Id. Any assertion that the President mayhave committed a crime—even if “obliquely urged”—will “effectively disable [him] in the discharge of hisconstitutional duties.” Nixon v. Sirica, 487 F.2d 700,

16758 (D.C. Cir. 1973) (MacKinnon, J.). The Nixonsubpoena did not cross that line. This one does.2Finally, the District Attorney’s other examples(at 18-19) are distinguishable for the same reasons.United States v. Burr involved federal process, did nottarget the President, and implicated the trial rights ofa criminal defendant. 25 F. Cas. 30 (C.C.D. Va. 1807);25 F. Cas. 187 (C.C.D. Va. 1807). The subpoena toPresident Monroe engaged him as a defense witnessin a Naval court martial, and neither the subpoenanor the President’s partial compliance with it waschallenged. Sirica, 487 F.2d at 710 n.42. PresidentFord came within feet of a woman charged withattempting to assassinate him, making him a“percipient witness.” United States v. Fromme, 405 F.Supp. 578, 580-82 (E.D. Cal. 1975). The process wasissued from a federal court and it did not make him acriminal target. Id. at 583.D.The Constitution strikes the balancein favor of immunity.The Court has employed a balancing approachthat weighs all the factors for and against immunitywhen it comes to evaluating whether the Presidentshould be immune from federal process. But balancingis unwarranted when it comes to state process—theThe District Attorney adds (at 30) that the harms wereworse in Nixon because the controversy was over confidentialcommunications. But the issue, for immunity purposes, is not thenature of the documents but the nature of the legal process.Regardless, many of the records subpoenaed here are alsoconfidential. Pet. 38 & n.5.2

17Supremacy Clause does that work. Supra 13-14. Evenif balancing is appropriate here, however, it weighsheavily in favor of immunity.This subpoena involves (1) state process (2)arising from a criminal proceeding that (3) targets thePresident for possible indictment. All of those factorsweigh in favor of immunity. The only factor weighingagainst immunity is that this grand-jury investigationtargets unofficial conduct. But the District Attorneyconcedes that this factor is not dispositive (otherwisethe President could be indicted, arrested,

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