SEABEES IN VIETNAM

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VIETNAA388ERANS OFV ETARICMETHMMarch 2016Newsletter of the Carson Area Chapter - 388 of the Vietnam Veterans of Americacommobunker388@charter.netSEABEES IN VIETNAMby Larry DeVries, CAPT CEC USNR (Ret.)The story of the Navy Seabees in Vietnam is one that stretches over a number of years and includes many, many accomplishments. The firstSeabees were deployed there as Navy Seabee Technical Assistance Teams, (later named Seabee Teams) at the behest of the State Departmentfor civic action as early as 1956. Other Seabee teams followed, but without a continuous presence, during the late 1950s and early 1960s.Seabee teams (officially called naval construction units) arrived again in South Vietnam in January 1963, first in support of U. S. ArmySpecial Forces and later in support of U. S. Agency for International Development. They worked to construct small, fortified camps for ArmySpecial Forces and to assist Vietnamese civilians living in rural areas. Special Forces personnel worked in remote sections, training andadvising Civilian Irregular Defense Groups in guerrilla tactics; thus, they needed stronger base camps that could withstand Viet Congground and mortar attacks.ACB-1, assigned under the Amphibious Command of the U. S. Navy’s 7th Fleet, was the first commissioned unit to land in South Vietnam inApril 1964 in Da Nang. They remained there until May 1965.The major expansion in U. S. military engagements began in 7 May 1965 when the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Brigade landed at Chu Lai,Republic of South Vietnam (the Seabee Camp there was later named Camp Shields). That landing force was the largest since Inchon, Korea,and included MCB-10, with 24 Officers and 738 Enlisted authorized but manned at about 500 men, including nearly 200 Reservists. Theirdeployment was from 7 May 1965 and would last, with several redeployments to homeport, until 16 September 1970.Action in June 1965 resulted in the only Seabee to receive the Congressional Medal of Honor when Seabee Team 1104 and a U. S. ArmySpecial Forces unit were assaulted by the Viet Cong. The battle occurred at the crossroads village of Dong Xoai (pronounced Swy) on June(Cont’d on Page 3)

VA SAYS, NO AGENT ORANGEPRESUMPTIVE COMPENSATIONFOR BLUE WATER SAILORSThe U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs has once again turneddown an effort by Navy veterans to get compensation for possibleexposure to Agent Orange during the Vietnam War.In a document released February 5, 2016, the VA said it wouldcontinue to limit benefits related to Agent Orange exposure to onlythose veterans who set foot in Vietnam, where the herbicide wassprayed, and to those who were on boats in inland rivers.CHAPTER ORGANIZATIONELECTED OFFICERSFrank ReynoldsTom SpencerJack McQuirkLee JacksonPresidentVice PresidentTreasurerSecretarySTANDING COMMITTEES:CONTACTExecutive Committee**Frank ReynoldsFinance Committee**Frank ReynoldsCommunity Services CommitteeOPENVerne HortonOutreachMembership AffairsTom SpencerGovernment AffairsDarrol BrownBruce BertramChaplain’sAdopt-a-Vet Dental ProgramBrenda HortonCommunicationsVerne HortonPOW/MIADarrol BrownHealth/TransportationNeal DaviesSpecial EventsJack McQuirk/Larry Knack/Ron MooreScholarshipDarrol Brown/Bruce BertramVSOJoe MatisohnWelcome HomeRick ArnoldWomen’s AffairsLee JacksonAD HOC COMMITTEESVietnam Veterans Recognition DayRick ArnoldWreaths Across AmericaVeterans Day CommitteeOthers (as called for by the President)** Membership established by Chapter By-LawsChapter President is a member of all Committees388th is a monthly publication of the Vietnam Veterans of America - CarsonArea Chapter 388 and is published solely for the education of and communication with it’s membership and other interested parties. Not for Sale.Verne R. Horton, Editor/PublishereContact Information:TH388Advocates for some 90,000 so-called Blue Water Navy veteranswho served off the coast of Vietnam have been asking the VA formore than a decade to broaden the policy to include them. They saythat they were exposed to Agent Orange because their ships suckedin potentially contaminated water and distilled it for showering,drinking, laundry and cooking. Experts have said the distillationprocess could have actually concentrated the Agent Orange.The U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims last April struckdown VA rules that denied compensation for sailors whose shipsdocked at certain harbors in South Vietnam, including Da Nang.Those ports, the court determined, may have been in the AgentOrange spraying area.“Environmental health experts in VA’s Veterans HealthAdministration have reviewed the available scientific informationand concluded that it is not sufficient to support a presumption thatBlue Water Navy Veterans were exposed to Agent Orange,” the VAsaid in a fact sheet.U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), the ranking member ofthe Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, criticized the VA’sdecision.“Rather than siding with veterans, VA is doubling down on anirrational and inconsistent policy,” he said in a statement. “Youngsailors risked their lives during the Vietnam War, unaware thatdecades later, they and their children and grandchildren would stillfeel the toxic effects of exposure. Veterans who served offshoreand in the harbors of Vietnam were exposed and deserve thepresumption of service connection for Agent Orange-relateddiseases.”A 2011 Institute of Medicine report said there was no way to proveBlue Water vets were exposed to the chemicals, but it identifiedplausible routes that Agent Orange could have traveled out to seaand into a ship’s distillation system.The VA said it is working with veterans groups to “initiate agroundbreaking study of Blue Water Navy Veterans healthoutcomes. We hope to have data gathered and analyses publishedin 2017.”Newsletter Email: commmobunker388@charter.netChapter 388 Website: http://vva388.com/Chapter Facebook Page: VVA Chapter 388 Carson CityNevadaChapter President: Frank Reynolds: vva388@gmail.comChapter Meetings:Veterans Hall - 2nd and Curry Streets, Carson City, NV 897011st Thursday of each month - 5:30 pmBreakfast MeetingsGrandma Hatties Restaurant - 2811 So. Carson St., Carson CityMid- Month - email vva388@gmail.com for specific date and time.Veterans called the VA’s decision a betrayal. John Wells, aLouisiana lawyer who has spent more than a decade advocating forBlue Water veterans, said his group would continue challengingthe VA and push for legislation that would mandate coverage forthe Blue Water veterans.Blue Water vets - so named to set the sailors apart from their BrownWater Navy counterparts, who patrolled the murky rivers of SouthVietnam — were initially deemed eligible for compensation underthe Agent Orange Act of 1991, only to have the VA change itsinterpretation a decade later.

(Cont’d. from page 1)10, 1965. CMA3 M arvin G. Shields, USN, died in the assault andwas awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously.The Seabee era for units could be said to include the period from1964 to 1973, when the last unit left Vietnam, or about nine years.The extended period, including Seabee Teams, would be from1956-1973, or 17 years.The Chiefs of Navy Civil Engineers and Heads of the Bureau ofYards & Docks during the Vietnam era were: RADM PeterCorradi, CEC, USN, from 12 February 1962 to 31 October 1965and RADM Alexander C. Husband, CEC, USN, from 1 November1965 to 29 August 1969. The change in title was made and theCommander, Naval Facilities Engineering Command was RADMWalter M. Engler, CEC, USN, from 29 August 1969 to 11 May1973.In the spring of 1965 there were 9,400 Seabees on active duty atvarious sea and shore locations. Most of the Seabees were assignedto ten peace-time (reduced) strength MCBs. They were splitbetween Atlantic Seabees, Davisville, RI & Gulfport, MS, andPacific Seabees, Port Hueneme, California, and their deploymentsites.A major training and logistics base for the Pacific Command was atSubic Bay in the Philippines where the Navy and the Bureau ofYards and Docks (later, Naval Facilities Engineering Command,renamed in 1969) had maintained a significant presence in the FarEast dating back to the Korean Conflict buildup and basing ofregiments and mobile construction battalions.During the Vietnam era the total Seabee force grew from 9,400 inmid-1965 to 14,000 in mid-1966, to 20,000 in mid-1967, andfinally, to more than 26,000 at the peak in 1968 & 1969. In 1969 thestrength in Vietnam was about 11,000 consisting of units of alltypes (below). To help meet the great need for personnel the Navyrecruited skilled construction workers at advanced pay grades. Thedirect procurement Petty Officer program was reminiscent of earlyWorld War II started in early 1966. Recruiting efforts provedhighly effective both in terms of total numbers recruited (morethan 13,000) and quality of input.Two Reserve Seabee battalions were to make history as attentionturned in 1967 to potential reserve battalion call-up planning. Ofthe eighteen reserve battalions, MCB-12, located in Davisville,Rhode Island, and MCB-22, located in Dallas, Texas, receivedorders in the month of June 1967 to prepare for recall to active duty.They reported aboard Construction Battalion Center, Gulfport,Mississippi. They served for about seven months each in Vietnamreturning in July and August 1969.In all, the following commissioned Seabee units served in Vietnam:· MCB-1, -3 through -11, 12, 22, 40, 53, 58, 62, 71, 74, 121, 128,& 133,· 3d Naval Construction Brigade,· 30th Naval Construction Regiment,· 32nd Naval Construction Regiment· CBMU-301 and CBMU- 302, and· ACB-1 & ACB-2.Seabee details, of various sizes but normally 50 men or less, wereworking in many places away from the parent unit throughoutVietnam. Seabee Teams were normally about 15 men with a CECofficer were normally engaged in USAID projects. Seabee Teamsalso operated from Thailand. Other units included CBPAC DetRVN and CBPAC Det Thai (Bangkok) which provided support toteams and units. Seabee equipment overhaul support was providedat Guam, Okinawa, and Yokosuka, Japan, as well as state-side atTreasure Island and Port Hueneme, California.In addition there were two thousand plus Seabees assigned toNaval Support Activities (NSA) and their detachments throughoutthe country.Units were generally on an eight-month deployment and a return tohome port for six months before deploying again.The strength of the Seabees decreased from 1969 until 1973 duringthe period of the Nixon Administration’s policy of Vietnamization,announced on 8 June 1969, until the last unit, CBMU-302, leftSouth Vietnam in 1973. Two years more would elapse before theNorth Vietnam invasion force’s Final Offensive overwhelmed theSouth Vietnam military in April 1975.VVA CHAPTER 388OFFICER ELECTIONSThe election of Chapter Officers for the fiscal years 2016 and 2017will be held during the Chapter’s up-coming April meeting - April7, 2016.Nominated candidates are:for Chapter President - Tom SpencerChapter Vice President - Dan GiridoniChapter Secretary - Lee JacksonChapter Treasurer - Jack McQuirkNominations were accepted and closed by Election CommitteeChair, Darrol Brown who will conduct the election on the 7th.Officers elected will be installed and begin their term of office inMay, 2016.

The Carson Area Chapter 388 of the Vietnam Veterans of America presents the“There are a ton of veterans in this town that no one knows they’rehere,” Furlong told a panel of community members, makingspecific note of the problem of homelessness among Carson City’sveteran population.“Veterans should not be homeless,” Furlong said. “But it’s arepetitive problem we often hear.”“We’re not well connected in Carson City,” Furlong said. “It’s a sadstate that we are in a city where the mayor is a veteran, the citymanager is a veteran, and the sheriff is a veteran, and we don’tknow where to go for services.”But using the State of Nevada’s Green Zone Initiative as a modelfor implementing a centralized network of service providers,Furlong hopes to change all of that.“I have this vision of an Internet link on the Carson Citygovernment web site,” he said, “that takes you to a hub or wheelthat has the answers.”There are veteran resources for employment, education, housingand health care that already exist, and service providers whodeliver them.But the problem is connecting them all onto the same wheel tobetter serve veterans.ANoting the absence of a Veterans Administration presence inCarson City, Furlong said the biggest problem for veterans here isthe fragmentation of services, which makes finding the right onefor a veteran’s needs difficult.ERANS OFV ETARICMEThe panel consisted of veterans and veteran organization leaders,veteran support personnel, representatives from the local media.WELCOMEHOME!AMCarson City Sheriff Ken Furlong has identified a problem in thestate capital, and he has proposed a way to solve it.2016 VIETNCARSON SHERIFF PROPOSESVETERAN SUPPORT STRUCTUREVIETNAM VETERANSDAY CELEBRATIONApril 2, 2015 - 5:00PMAt the Nevada Vietnam Memorial,all Vietnam Veterans and the Publicare invited to attend the 20l6“Welcome Home Ceremony”Honoring those who served and came homeand remembering those Brothers and Sisterswho served, but never made it home.Vietnam Veterans Memorial - East End of Mills ParkA no-host reception will follow from5:30PM to 8:30PM. Vietnam Veteransand the public are invited to attend.The members are in place for a structure, Furlong said, but theyneed to be connected by a proper and strong foundation that holdsthem together.Furlong’s idea would have all veterans’ needs flow through acentral hub where communication is shared among serviceproviders to accomplish the goal of helping veterans meet theirneeds.What the initiative is not is more government, Furlong said. Rather,it’s the same government pooling its resources together withcommunity stakeholders to improve service delivery for veterans.Furlong assured Wednesday’s panel that both the mayor and thecity manager are fully on board with this concept.“I’m asking government to endorse a link to services,” he said. “Weneed to reach out and get all of the stakeholders in this communitytogether.”Military veterans have a hard enough time amalgamating back intocivilian life, Furlong said, and we owe it to them to make their livesa little bit easier.“Veterans struggle with services, and I’m sympathetic to that,” hesaid. “I think we can create a door that opens veterans to the world.”2171 E William St, Carson City, NV 89701More Information - vva388@gmail.com - www.vva388.com

AWARDS AND DECORATIONSBronze Star (BSM)by John HussongCarson Area Chapter 388 - Vietnam Veterans of America2003 Pontiac Trans AmGive-Away!4 Door Sedan Automatic V6 Kelly Blue Book Value 3000.00Tickets 10.00 eaDrawing held April 2, 2016 in conjunction with 388’s“Welcome Home Celebration”Proceeds to benefit Chapter 388’s Veterans Outreach ProgramsThe Bronze Star Medal was originally established by ExecutiveOrder (E.O.) 9419 on February 4, 1944. Since then, it wassuperseded by E.O. 11046 on August 24, 1962 and then amended onFebruary 28, 2003 by E.O. 13286.WINNER NEED NOT BE PRESENTThe BSM may be awarded by the secretary of a military departmentor by the Secretary of Homeland Security (with regards to the U.S.Coast Guard) or by such military commanders as the secretary maydesignate.The BSM may be awarded to any person who, while in service to:the Army, Navy, USMC, USAF or USCG of the United States afterDecember 6, 1941 who distinguishes or has distinguishedthemselves by heroic or meritorious achievement (not includingaerial flight):a. while engaged in action against an enemy of the U.S.b. while engaged in military operations involving conflict with anopposing forcec. while serving with friendly forces engaged in an armed conflictagainst an opposing forceThe BSM with the “V” device denotes heroism and is the 4thhighest military decoration for Valor and 9th-highest in order ofprecedence in the U.S. Military. Only one “V” device may be wornon a suspension and service ribbon, however, additional awards ofthe BSM are as follows:Army & USAF - oakleaf clusterUSN, USMC, USCG - 5/16” starThe Bronze Star Medal is awarded only to service members incombat who are receiving “imminent danger pay” (for us old timers,that would mean: hazardous duty pay or being in a combat zone)Figures include 468 at sea or overwater losses

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Adopt a Vet Dental Program CarAAVDArea Chapter838Brenda Horton, HLMnsoVVA-388/Adopt a Vet Dental ProgramVolunteer Case ManagerThis month brings the start of the 4th year of the Chapter'sinvolvement with the Adopt a Vet Dental Program. Thebeginning of the month brings the memory of thoseearly months when AAVD had 4 general dentists and 2specialty dentists in the Carson Area. We've seen theprogram change and grow. There are presently 29dentists donating their time, supplies, and effort incontributing to those veterans so much in need of dentalcare.A summary of the services provided are:· Presently 29 veterans are in some stage of dentaltreatment· 23 veterans have been scheduled for pre-screening· The 'waiting' list is gone for all veterans are insome stage of processing.· The waiting period is now 0 months versus the 2.5years in 2013.· A total of 64 veterans from the Carson Area havecompleted their dental treatment an average of21.3 veterans per year!· Average treatment value is estimate at 6500 - 8000· 0 waiting acceptance by dentist, paperworkcompleted· There are only 12 dentists not participating in theCarson Area. Recently we are attempting to contactthese dentists to ascertain if they are now interested.thI am in the process of organizing the 4 Annual PokerRun event. The proceeds goes directly to the AAVD –Carson Area to help offset the cost of the dental lab fees.With the re-opening of Battle Born Harley-Davidson(Carson City) I have set a firm date for Saturday, August6, 2016 for the Poker Run in which we estimate 100bikers and riders. I've contact the band and food willagain be provided by Grandma Hattie's. We hope tosurpass last year's donation to the AAVD of 2,400. Allmembers are asked to help with this event, either atregistration, manning a “stop”, and/or soliciting raffleprizes.I discovered another avenue of spreading the wordabout Adopt a Vet Dental by you informing your non VAphysician. They often see veterans that are in need ofdental care. Each Chapter member is asked to informlow-income veterans in need of dental treatment of theprogram and to continuously thank those dentists whoprovide their generosity. Please give either my phonenumber, e-mail me at bmhorton@charter.net , or the mainoffice which is 870-4358 in Reno.I appreciate your support with the AAVD program.

2016 TENTATIVE CALENDARThe below events and dates with the exception of Chapter Meetings,Breakfasts and National Holidays are tentative and subject to change.DateEventLocationApril 2Welcome HomeMills Park/Vietnam Veterans DayApril 7Chapter MeetingCarson CityApril 16Breakfast 9AMGrandma Hattie’sMay TBAOutreachMay 5Chapter MeetingCarson CityMay 21Breakfast 9AMGrandma Hattie’sMay 21ARMED FORCES DAYMay 31MEMORIAL DAYJune TBAOutreachJune 2Chapter MeetingCarson CityJune 11Carson Valley Days ParadeMindenJune 13Carson City Airport Open House Carson CityJune 14FLAG DAYJune 18Breakfast 9AMGrandma Hattie’sJuly 4INDEPENDENCE DAYJuly 7Chapter MeetingCarson CityJuly 16Breakfast 9AMGrandma Hattie’sJuly TBA388 Summer Sizzler BBQCarson CityAugust TBAOutreachAugust TBAAdopt a Vet Poker RunCarson CityAugust 4Chapter MeetingCarson CityAugust 20Breakfast 9AMGrandma Hattie’sSeptember TBADayton Valley DaysDaytonSeptemb

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